Carrie Murphy

Drew interviews fellow Nashville Comedian Carrie Murphy, who has an amazing story about how her first comedy show was headlining a sold out theatre, and her second one was filming a K-Love special...but her story doesn't stop there!

Additionally, the two chat about the movie Is This Thing On, writing tips for standup,  and old people.

Connect with Carrie Murphy here!

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Having had such a big couple of things right off the bat, when you look down the road for yourself now, like what are comedy goals that you have for yourself or things you'd like to see?

SPEAKER_00 0:10

Or yeah.

SPEAKER_02 0:12

Like what now? I mean, like what do you just you've peeked and you I'm done.

SPEAKER_00 0:16

Um this this podcast is it. Once I walk out of this room, my career is over.

SPEAKER_01 0:22

You're listening to the podcast Clean Comedy Dance with your hostre David. It's not a big command will save your life forever.

SPEAKER_02 0:33

You're welcome. You're welcome. Welcome back to the Clean Comedy Chats. I'm your host, as always, Drew Davis. I didn't change who I was between now and last week. And uh you are here listening to a podcast that has to do with a lot of clean comedians who are part of the group, the Clean Comedy Collective. Each week we bring you someone different to get to know. And I like to hope that either I'm introducing you to your favorite comedian ever, or at least like maybe I made a new friend. Um, however, this week is different because one, we're live in my actual house center virtual episode. And two, the comedian we're interviewing is already one of my friends. We're interviewing Carrie Murphy from Nashville, Tennessee. Carrie, how are you doing?

SPEAKER_00 1:17

I'm so pumped to be here, Drew. Uh I have an enormous amount of respect for what you do. So I'm so humbled to be here today and talk, talk some comedy.

SPEAKER_02 1:27

That's what we're here for. We um and and Carrie, I don't we don't I don't know how we like met.

SPEAKER_00 1:33

Like we'll never figure out one day there was no Drew in my life. The next, like your number was in my phone. We were getting coffee.

SPEAKER_02 1:42

Um that's how every woman meets me. Like we don't know them, and then it's and then you just appear.

SPEAKER_00 1:48

And that's weird.

SPEAKER_02 1:48

That's how that's how it works. But yeah, but what we have uh so much in common is in like we used to be in youth ministry, we well, ministry.

SPEAKER_00 1:56

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 1:56

Um, and then we do comedy and uh I don't know other people both love old people. We well, yes.

SPEAKER_00 2:02

One of us does.

SPEAKER_02 2:03

We we have a lot of experience working with old people, yeah, and one of us mind them. I don't know. I don't know if I'd say I like I don't know. They're they're fine.

SPEAKER_00 2:12

You don't like collect them or anything.

SPEAKER_02 2:13

I yeah, I don't have like in any that's a weird stuff. Uh ladies and gentlemen, if you're wondering about uh Carrie Murphy as a comedian and not a collector of old people, uh let me give you a short little buy over. Carrie Murphy has shared the stage with Matthew West, CC Wynans, Michael Tate, and Tasha Leighton. Layton's like Dayton, that's right. We just talked about that. And um I honestly I I know Michael Tate, but like I only know of context, really Matthew West, so I'm excited to talk more about that. Uh Carrie also has nine, a nine-episode comedy special on Caleb. Caleb? Caleb, I don't know what's going on.

SPEAKER_00 2:49

This is a good thing. It's just like you're intimidated to be with such greatness.

SPEAKER_02 2:53

It is. That's exactly what's happening. I I just it's I don't even know what I'm doing. Additionally, Carrie has written three films, a devotional, and lots of jokes. Um, so we're gonna get into all that and more in our episode. Uh, but before we do that, Carrie, beyond the bio, beyond all the things we can read about you, beyond all the things we tell you you are, who is Carrie Murphy?

SPEAKER_00 3:14

Ooh, what a deep question. Um first, I would say I'm a child of God. Um, I'm a wife, a dog mom. In fact, I just ordered a license plate, like a vanity plate, which I know some awesome, but it says dog mom. Um, and I'm someone who is a weirdo and just trying to capitalize on that.

SPEAKER_02 3:37

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 3:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:39

That's what are um what are the weirdest things about you that you capitalize on?

SPEAKER_00 3:44

Oh man. Have I mentioned I like old people?

SPEAKER_02 3:48

Yep. Um we both have a shared passion for the elderly.

SPEAKER_00 3:52

We do, we do. Um, we could have a whole podcast on that.

SPEAKER_02 3:56

Carry true and the old people. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 3:59

But now I'm just thinking about old people and I don't even remember what your question was.

SPEAKER_02 4:04

What's one of the oddity things about you, but that that works.

SPEAKER_00 4:08

Uh yeah, that works.

SPEAKER_02 4:10

That works. Um, well, okay, so there's a lot of different things I want to cover with you. Uh, I think I want to start with your unique experience coming into comedy and how it had to do basically. If I'm not mistaken, you you you you tell the story better because you actually know it. Um, but uh you did like you did comedy once and then you got a Caleb special.

SPEAKER_00 4:29

Yes. Which is nuts. Right, it's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 4:33

Yeah, I'd love to hear more about and for our listeners also to hear more about. Yeah. Also, I forgot to tell you guys, we are part of the Clean Comedy Collective. You can check out all of our stuff at cleancomedycollective.com. You can see previous episodes of the podcast. You can uh me and Carrie are both in the Tennessee section of the website, but you can go see your new favorite comedian from whichever state you're from. Um, there's a place where you can donate to the clean comedy collective. You can join our Patreon, which lets you have full uh access to the episodes that are uncut, so you can hear all the hilarious things that I have cut in this episode from Miss Sane. Um, and then also there's a way where you can see what shows we have coming up. And so check out the Clean Comedy Collective. Anyway, that was the side commercial. CCC. Let's go. CQ. Yay! There we go. Oh, that's cool. That's cool. Uh anyway, uh, let's get back to you and Caleb. And how did that how did that happen? Like how did you start and then how did you get here? Yeah, so what's okay.

SPEAKER_00 5:26

So when I was growing up, wanted to be a comedian. I watched a special by Mark Lowry, who is like probably you haven't heard of him, um, but he was like a a Christian comic. And so it was the first time I had seen someone who was like clean and a believer, and he he can sing very well. He wrote Mary, did you know? So, like he was using all of this musicalness, he was making music videos, all a part of his special. And I remember watching that over and over and over and thinking, like, that's a me. Like, that's another me. He's weird, he's wacky, he's zany. And I was like, I'm not a lone ranger in this world, like there are other people. So I always had this like in the back of my mind, nagging desire to do comedy, but the pragmatic part of me never allowed me to explore it. Um, and also fear. I mean, I had a lot, a lot of fear about, you know, just going out. It's so vulnerable. And for me, I'm I'm kind of a perfectionist where I want anything I'm putting out to be high quality, what I want. And so the art of just like going out and winging it, not knowing if things are funny was like a big stumbling or like a big roadblock for me. So I found myself in in ministry and I was loving it, it was great. I found myself like covertly just like putting comedy into what I was doing, like through the events I was making, through the things I was hosting, and uh I bet you I bet you were great at facilitating events and like the MC or Ace, you know, and like um the the staff I was with, we had like um within the staff, a group that planned the staff's parties, appreciation events and stuff. And um one night the church let me do uh we were on a retreat and they let me do the Carrie Murphy show, which was like a kind of like a late night spin off, but with staff, and it just like something started stirring and brewing, and I was like, if I don't just try, like even if it flops, even if I fail, I just have to to see. I have to see what's on the other side of this fence. I'm too afraid to jump over. So I was working a normal nine to five ministry job, great job, great benefits, stability, um all those good things, yeah, all those wonderful things, and uh I really just felt like I needed to just come out comedian. Like I really did. And so I was in my mid-30s at the time, I'm in my late 30s now, and it was like I don't have the time to go to 10 million open mics until 12. You know, I'm married, I want to see my husband. Like it just didn't really fit in my life at the time. So I thought, okay, I'm just gonna go hard, I'm gonna go all out, I'm gonna just show everyone I'm funny in one night, and then from then, who knows what will happen. So I booked the Franklin Theater, uh, a wonderful theater here in Tennessee, and hoped I would sell tickets. Didn't know what I was gonna say. You know, I have been trying to perfect like a five, a tight five, tight ten ever since that whole thing, but like at the time I had no material and I booked myself for an hour. Um, so I really just like took a step. And this was in January. The show was in April.

SPEAKER_01 9:00

Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_00 9:01

So I gave myself, you know, time to plan and like invested in myself. You know, I booked the theater hoping I I didn't know what I was doing. I I knew nobody in the comedy realm. I was just like, hey, I'm I'm gonna do this. And I remember the day of the show being so afraid that I almost was just like, we need to cancel day of like I can't do what did I do? Like all the things I'm like looking at this empty theater.

SPEAKER_02 9:32

And was it one of those where like you didn't know how many uh you knew you hadn't sold any tickets yet?

SPEAKER_00 9:37

Oh, I knew I sold it out.

SPEAKER_02 9:39

Oh, cool, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:39

Yeah, and so that's why I was just like, what the crap did I do? Um, I mean, some of it was family and friends, some of them weren't, and so I I just had a freak out like the day of of like I I have no business being there, and I didn't. Um, but I remember the the very second where I went onto stage for the first time, and it how I say it is like it felt like all of me finally aligned. Um and it went well, it was super fun. Uh, it went by fast, but I was getting the laughs, like it was working, and I just felt like after that night, um, one, I felt fearless. I felt like I could just do anything now, uh, which that was pretty fleeting. Um but number two, it just it just like confirmed that this is what I want to try and do. Um and as fate, as God would have it, um, there were some people in the room. Um, one from K Love, which is a Christian radio station that's nationwide. Um, he was there. Um, another person I really respect, John A. Cuff, was there. Um, he's like a Christian writer's humorist. Anyways, so I didn't know that the Caleb guy was there. I didn't meet him or anything. And I just thought, man, I did that. I'm proud of myself. That was great. Who knows what from here? And then about two months later, he called and offered me a special with K-Love. And I I mean, it's just one of those things where like you never know how your journey's gonna go, you know, and and the the ups and downs. And for me, my story was it started with like two huge highs, like a one-hour show that sold out at a theater, which I have not done since.

SPEAKER_02 11:38

Yeah, that's it for me, that's an accomplishment.

SPEAKER_00 11:40

Yeah, yeah. And then uh, you know, uh a comedy special with with different episodes. Um, and now there's more funny things on K-Love, which I love that they're like expanding it more too.

SPEAKER_02 11:51

But but you were the first.

SPEAKER_00 11:53

I was the first, yeah. And um that was a very humbling experience. Um I it's weird. I look back now and like now that I've been doing comedy for a few years, I would have done things so differently. And it's like my um freshman album, like my very first like special that's posted, it's like that's that's my first. Like it all, I was just like, ugh, you know, like I mean, do you look back at your first one and you're like, man, I've improved since then.

SPEAKER_02 12:30

So I listen, I'm I'm kind of proud. So it's interesting. I'm proud of my first one, I'm less proud of my second one. Really? Right. So but the first one when I listen to it, it's like I do hear how I would do things differently. But I'm kind of proud of like that was because at the time I I thought that was like gonna be like my last comedy thing I was gonna do. I thought I thought I was going back into full-time ministry and I was done with comedy, so it's like this is seven, and but for me, it wasn't like it was like seven years, and then I'm gonna put it on an album. So like I feel like it was the best I could do at that point, and I was proud of it. Although now I listen to it and I'm like, oh, I told those jokes so much better, or I would speak less fast. Or the biggest thing is uh it we filmed it in December at a comedy club and there was a Christmas tree on stage, and I never once referenced that tree, the tree.

SPEAKER_00 13:13

And I feel like I should I feel like no Christmas trees haunt you every every Christmas time.

SPEAKER_02 13:17

No, we don't we don't even celebrate Christmas anymore. Uh because I don't like looking at those trees. No, no, but um but I do feel like when I listen, I I used to be able to listen to it. Now I don't really listen to it anymore just because I it's old, but like but it was a different experience to the second one because like a few months after recording it, I felt like I had a comedy growth moment. And I'm like, um I tell those jokes so much better than what I hear on the yeah, it was it was weird. So anyway, um but so when you listen to your first one, because now you have two. I do so yeah, now you have two. When you listen to your first one, is it like do you come at it with a like a sense of pride or a sense of like, oh lord?

SPEAKER_00 13:58

It's a mix because what I like about that first special with K-Love is I'm so like naive and just like a purist with comedy. Like I hadn't shopped it around, I hadn't done open mic, so it was just so me. And I really love that. Like it wasn't influenced by anything. I didn't know if the the jokes would land. Um, so I think that's what I'm most proud of when I watch it. Now, objectively, you know, as a you know, someone outside of myself, um, it's hard to, I don't know, it's hard to weigh your own stuff. I it and I feel like no matter what, I have um like a sensitivity to my stuff being out anywhere, which is like funny for a comic to say because that's the whole thing. But like that is still a new sensation for me of like, here's this art that I worked really, really hard on, up for the general public to just have at just murder, yeah. And so yeah, mixed feelings, but I would say like having done that is one of like the things in my life I'm most proud of. Like it's a point where I can pinpoint it and go, okay, for that time, I was a good comic or or whatever, you know, it's just like mile markers. I think as comics, you get those mile markers.

SPEAKER_02 15:14

And I wonder if the like the authenticity of especially like I'm thinking of like your Franklin show, like you were saying people laughed, it sold out, it was a good experience. And I think maybe uh like I think about my very first time I did an open mic, um, it actually went pretty good.

SPEAKER_00 15:27

Did it? It did.

SPEAKER_02 15:28

I got laughs, I felt good about it. Um, and I in hindsight, I think it's because I didn't know what to be nervous about. Yeah, I didn't know I was just I just went up there and did my thing, and I didn't I didn't even I didn't I was too inexperienced to know what to be nervous about. Right. Yes, and I think that's maybe why it went so well is because I just went up there and was authentic myself and funny, and then it took me a while to kind of do that on purpose. But and so I wonder if like your first show, like that Franklin one, if like the reason it went so well is because you were so new you didn't have to be for sure, and like I didn't know any other comics, no other comics were in the room, like which which for me has been something I've had to grow into.

SPEAKER_00 16:08

Is like like when I've done open mics and you're there, I'm like, oh Drew's watching now. Like, I don't know, there's just a different like awareness. I would say my level of awareness has increased of just like what people expect, what it takes, what's normal, what's not normal.

SPEAKER_02 16:24

Um and is that a is that a good thing or a bad thing that we have that awareness as comedians? Like, what do you think?

SPEAKER_00 16:30

Like, is that yeah, it just feels hard. Like, I wish I could go back to when I was just totally like, I'm just gonna do this show and it's gonna be great and a success. Cause now I have so much failure. Um, because that's just part of it, right? Like, um, that it's like it's almost like I was shown like the pinnacle. And then ever since then, it's like, okay, now I have to put in the do's. Right. Now I have to do the the grueling part of being a comedian.

SPEAKER_02 16:58

Yeah, because really you did. You started off your first show was a sold-out theater, and then you had a special. And those are two things that as new comedians, we work ourselves up to. Yes. You know, you start out in the grungy open mic dive bar scene, and when you, you know, feel like you and we we'll talk a little bit more this more about because we're actually doing a slight movie review of this podcast. So we're going back to my roots as a podcaster. Uh we'll talk about how like uh in the movie um is this thing on, how he he like he started an open mic comedy and it was a big deal when he got his first little dive bar 10 minute showcase, but like your first thing, your literal first performance was a sold-out theater.

SPEAKER_01 17:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:35

So um, so one of the things you mentioned too, you said in hindsight, there'd be some things you'd do differently. Have you have you labeled what things you would do differently?

SPEAKER_00 17:44

Uh uh, I mean, I'm being genuine here. This is not a plug, but I would get a consultant like you do, who's been in the business to hear my set and go, step forward when you say this, put your arm up when you do this. Like I'm a I'm so good at taking direction, but I had no one direct me. And it's like that was a miss. Because I I do need that and I want that. Um, and then I I didn't mention this when I was telling the story, but um I went to counseling up leading to the show because I was so scared and I was like processing so much fear.

SPEAKER_02 18:16

Yeah, like the like you went to like professional real counseling, like comedy counseling.

SPEAKER_00 18:20

Yes, I didn't see Drew Davis. No, I saw like a legit counselor because I'm like, I'm trying to do this thing that I want to do that I've been putting off that I've really struggled with because of fear, and it was like the the most definition of like facing your fear, that's what I was doing. So yeah, I I would have gotten other comics to come beside me um and be like, look, here's what you do, here's what you know it looks like. Um, but I also would have savored it more because I didn't know the value of what I was being given until, you know, I was starting back from all the all the fanfare is done, now go out and do open likes. So um, yeah, I would have appreciated the moment, I think, a little bit more had I known what it was gonna take to get that moment again.

SPEAKER_02 19:07

Well, and I think comedy has taught me the importance of celebrating the wins when they happen. Yeah. You can't really tell if it's gonna be great, if it's what you know, what so when you have those good show moments, no matter why they're a good show, just to be able to afterwards be like that was fun.

SPEAKER_00 19:21

Yes, I enjoyed myself. Yes, I did not feel like I was being humiliated publicly tonight. Yeah, like that's a win. Um, so there is part of me though that's like, man, I want another one. Right. Because like I just want another opportunity to try out new stuff. And um and you know what?

SPEAKER_02 19:39

You probably will get one eventually, right? Like there's gonna be some time when you're at a sold-out theater doing something and you'll be able to compare that experience to your very first one. It'll be like a cool little full circle season finale moment.

SPEAKER_00 19:51

What I've realized is that everyone's road as a comic looks so different, and like everyone's peaks and valleys look different, you know. Um, like instead of me grueling it out for a while and then get a special, I got a special, but then very much had to do the grueling around and and grueling around.

SPEAKER_02 20:11

That's a good that's a good that's a good phrase for what we do as comedians. We just what are you not just grueling around?

SPEAKER_00 20:19

The voice too helped.

SPEAKER_02 20:22

Yeah, that's not uh yeah, that's not a that's not I'm just grueling around. That's okay. Well for 20 years. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 20:31

I became a chain smoker. Um yeah, but I think I think since the the beginning, I've had to learn how to fall in love with being a comedian um as a comedian. So is I don't know, it the the fact that it was kind of backwards, I think is uh there's like good things, but then there's also challenges of like the heart feels extra hard now because I've already done this.

SPEAKER_02 20:54

So yeah, good moments.

SPEAKER_00 20:56

Yeah, I think another like adjustment. This isn't one I uh we you can uh ask me another question if you want, but like the thing it's okay for us to have an organic conversation.

SPEAKER_02 21:05

That's what podcasts is.

SPEAKER_00 21:06

Okay, great. Yeah, but okay, so I'm like in ministry at a church, everyone's friendly, everyone will approach you and talk to you and save you a seat. And I didn't expect that to translate into like being a comedian, but like the start contrast.

SPEAKER_02 21:26

Oh my goodness, it's very different, it's very different, like and so yeah, it's definitely more of a solitary sport, like it's definitely like a um, but and and I've I'm gonna brag a little bit on the Clean Comedy Collective, and that that's because this is our podcast where I'm allowed to talk about it. You are seeing um the trying to build a community and working together and just being there for each other is a part of what makes our com our network unique. Is it's more than just like, oh, we're get together and do shows. It's like we try to do things in a more positive atmosphere, and I think it it it Sams are like I know for me, like I have that ministry background as well. So it was weird going into full-time comedy and seeing the stark contrast, but also thinking like as someone who used to create community for the job. It's like, oh, we could do better, you know, like we can do better.

SPEAKER_00 22:12

I love it.

SPEAKER_02 22:12

Um, and so I think that's important.

SPEAKER_00 22:14

Um, but you do like I will say I have very few. I'm trying to think if I have any friends that are outside of C3, the Clean Comedy Collective, like that that has been my primary source of community. So I could not have been so I the story continues. I started doing open mics and stuff because I we intersected. Yes, we don't know how. No, we don't, but we were at Sweetwaters together one day, and um you told me about what you were doing, and I was like, oh my word, like this is incredible, this is awesome. And so I then became CCC's you know stray cat, like put me in whenever and wherever. And yeah, that's been a huge gift.

SPEAKER_02 22:58

And I will say, um, in watching you, so that might have been like two or three years ago. Yeah. Uh, and I can absolutely see the improvement. Because when I first met you, I did track as someone who'd been doing it longer, like, okay, she's had a few really awesome experiences and definitely has the all the the makings for a good comedian, but just needs more experience, needs more stage time, needs more practice. She's still like that, you know, new rookie. Yeah. And and but when you do this long enough and when you work, you know, in my job working with comedians, you can tell the I mean, I think everyone can eventually get there, but the tr the harsh truth is that some people just have the natural talent more so that they can get there quicker. So when I saw you, I was I I saw like the natural like mixture of like things that would make for a good comedian, right? Which is why I was more invested in being like, hey, you should come, you know, come to these shows, or like, would you like to try your hand at hosting? Because I saw that you had all the raw material thing, right? Absolutely. Um, and yeah, and I and I can't explain. I mean, everyone can get there, but sometimes when when you start noticing new comedians, you just see that people, some people have it more than others. And uh, but the for the other people, you just have to work harder. Like I'm probably more of a work harder person for it, but like, but I've anyway, um, and I have seen over the years because we had you start coming, uh, you performed at the bunginut pig, which for everyone listening to it, it's just a rest in peace. It was just an old restaurant basement that we did comedy in.

SPEAKER_00 24:17

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 24:17

Um, and uh, we had you there, we had you at Sweetwater's, we've had and and now we've been on shows where we've traveled to go do shows together. And um, and I know I told you this the last time we did a show in Owensboro, Kentucky, but um, we were co-headliners for that. And um they didn't like because you went up before me, they didn't need me to be also be a headliner. Like you, like you did you you did your old woman impression, I'm sure I'm gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_00 24:41

Speaking of old people, it comes full circle.

SPEAKER_02 24:44

Yeah, it's it is this we do like yeah, and and it absolutely killed and just the your stage presence from the first time I'd seen you, um, which was you know like in an open mic in front of it. So not you know, it's you know, not nothing the same, but like it was cool to be able to see the growth in the past few and and and and that but that wasn't an accident, that was you have been putting the time in the muscle memory, yeah. So um, and I feel like um your story of getting those big shows early on, um, while it is uncommon, it is not as uncommon as it used to be in the age of like social media influencers and comedians that kind of find their following first and then start trying to go to the stage uh and they get the bookings because they can fill the room. Um, I've worked with a lot of them. Those are actually great people to get tied as like a feature for because then you can go do time and get paid well, and they you know they're the ones that get all seasons, you know. Um a lot of them do not develop an act, and so they get maybe themselves a one or two years of good comedy career and then they fall off the map because it's hard to kind of keep it going. And I think one thing you've done is you've developed you, I mean you did have that really cool, interesting start, but then you you've done the legwork afterwards.

SPEAKER_00 25:59

Yeah, and that's important. Thank you. I I really I I appreciate everything you've said. I I think I've also tried to move more from like when I did the first special, I was still working for a church, and so a lot of my content wasn't like clean, it was like actually specifically Bible. And um, I think part of being a part of the CCC has told me like or taught me that man, I can I can also do clean comedy. Like there's so many topics that that are out there for grabs, and I've loved that. So it's like, yeah, you don't figure out who you are in this scene uh until you've had lots of trial and error. Right. And um I appreciate that you've given me a space to try and fail and succeed and all the things.

SPEAKER_02 26:45

Yeah, that's it's um what we have to do as comedians because yeah, um, because we all every it uh the this idea that people just start comedy and are fantastic, right? Like you I mean, from the very beginning, when you're a comedy fan and you watch a special on Netflix and you're like, wow, that just seems so easy for that person. Yeah, reality is if that's their first special, that's uh average 10 years worth of work put into like you know right. So like this idea that it just comes so easily and you should just naturally be I mean, that's not how it works.

SPEAKER_00 27:13

No, and and creatively, I feel like I got all of my eggs out of the basket at the show, and it was like I had this like creative thing in me that needed to come out, and then it did, and then it's like, wait, now another one, like now more, and so like that's been something too of just like the work it takes to keep making funny material, like it's all encompassing, like you know, I'm sure you're the same way too, but just thinking about it all the time, writing it down after a conversation goes, you know, it's amusing and just like the all-encompassingness of it and and the the daunting nature of saying, like, okay, that was special number two is done. Now I can't use any of that for my next special. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:57

And I one I've rethought that a little bit for myself because I after my first two, I was like, okay, I'm never using that stuff again. But then it really bothered me because I was like, that's some good stuff, yeah. You know, um, and what I've come to the conclusion for myself is my specials aren't like Nate Brigazzi specials, aren't like Dusty Slay specials, but they're on Netflix and tons of people are seeing them. Right. Like people who come to my shows still haven't heard my stuff from my 2019 special. So I can I can do it and recycle that and it's fine, you know. So I do still when I go to my shows, I still do the quote unquote my greatest hits because they haven't been hits yet.

SPEAKER_00 28:33

They haven't like like they're not it's a manifestation, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:37

So then another question kind of based off of what we I'll eventually get to the questions I wrote down. But um you're fine. Uh and so having had such a big couple things right off the bat, when you look down the road for yourself now, like what are comedy goals that you have for yourself or things you'd like to see, or yeah, like what now? I mean, like what do you just you've peeked and you I'm done.

SPEAKER_00 29:00

Um this this podcast is it. Once I walk out of this room, my career is over.

SPEAKER_02 29:06

That makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 29:07

I mean, this is a natural end. This is the end of the road. Yeah. Um, I think now I want to, so I I'm I want to write another special. Like I and that's what I am slowly doing without the pressure of like having one already set for me. You have yeah, yes, yes. So that's what I'm doing now is just looking out for content. But I would say my goals are more like venue related. Like I have a checklist of like places I want to perform at. Um, and I would love like one of my end goals has always been being a warmer for um like a touring artist or a touring comedian. Uh, because why I love comedy is like bursting that bubble in the room, that awkward tension, uh, getting people in a place where they can hear whatever's coming next. So like yeah, like touring with a major comic and opening for them.

SPEAKER_01 30:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:03

Um, or like having my own tour, that would be fantastic too.

SPEAKER_01 30:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:08

So yeah, but for now, it's like I'm still like I want to get better before I try and do all the things I just described. So right now is more of like a refining time where I want to just okay, I know these jokes are funny. Um, then start shopping them around and then you know, pursue filming them. I also have a goal of uh getting a dry bar special. Um, I just that hasn't been on my radar, and then lately I've just really wanted it. So I'm like, okay, what do I need to do to make that happen? Um still would love to perform at Zany's. That's still always the white whale.

SPEAKER_02 30:44

It's the white whale, but it's in here in Nashville it's a big deal. Well, I mean, and it even expands to that. I mean, I say here in Nashville because we're in Nashville, but like it is the biggest comedy club in the South.

SPEAKER_00 30:55

Like it is, it's the spot, yeah. Um, so yeah, that's kind of it for now. It's like I want to write some more good jokes. And um, yeah, whereas before I've just kind of flung stuff around and you know, uh not careless with it, but more free-spirited. I'm just gonna go, and now I'm more careful.

SPEAKER_02 31:13

That's definitely the signs of a more mature comedian. No, one of the things I read on your bio was that you'd opened for a lot of like Christian music artists or you've worked with them. Was that in a comedy setting? Like, did you open Matthew West doing stand-up comedy?

SPEAKER_00 31:25

No, I did not tour with Matthew West. Um, but like they would be performing in town and need someone just to get the audience corraled or excited. And I loved it. So I'd do like a tight five, you know, and then walk off the stage and that was it. Yeah. Um, but yeah, it's just something that really it's it's so simple. Like it's just you would you would not think I was so excited about that, but man, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 31:49

Is that does you really enjoy the just being the hype person? Yeah, yeah. The hype person from life to like where we weren't doing comedy or we weren't at a show, and now we there's kind of power.

SPEAKER_00 31:59

It's a power. Like I have changed the room.

SPEAKER_02 32:01

Wait, and you wrote three films?

SPEAKER_00 32:02

I'm sorry, that was a no, you're fine. Yeah, throw it down. Yes. So um man, I don't even know how that happened, um, to be honest. I there was a um Christian film being made in the town I was at, and um somehow the producer of that movie um asked me to write it, and then two more. So, like the movies, they're on Netflix, like they're they're made.

SPEAKER_02 32:27

What movie can you say? Are you allowed to say what they are?

SPEAKER_00 32:30

I'll totally tell you.

SPEAKER_02 32:31

I mean, the So Fast and Furious.

SPEAKER_00 32:34

All seven? Are there seven?

SPEAKER_02 32:36

There's so much more than seven.

SPEAKER_00 32:37

Okay, I thought it was seven.

SPEAKER_02 32:38

Seven is the best one.

SPEAKER_00 32:39

So clearly though. So I wrote um the first one was called Uncommon, the second's called Crossing Streets, and the third one's called Nearly Married. Um, they're all very um what's a good way of saying it? Very clean, very clean. Okay, yes, the whole family could watch. Um yeah, if you're just curious, if you need if you have some time, go look them up. Check them out. But yeah, I I enjoyed writing, and I think that's one of the reasons why I love comedy is because at my heart I'm a writer. Um, and so yeah, that was super fun. I I don't know if I'll ever write a screenplay again. That's like a whole different beast.

SPEAKER_02 33:20

It's a different, uh, different kind of writing.

SPEAKER_00 33:22

It is, and like I was pretty much contracted, like, hey, we want a story about this. So it's not like, hey, creative person, come here and just imagine. Right. Um, so I didn't love like having a predetermined you know storyline or whatever, but yeah, it was a super fun experience. I got to um be assistant director of the films, like I got to help make them uh at least a couple. So that was really fun. That's cool.

SPEAKER_02 33:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:45

And then I I've Can we watch all of three of my movies and review them on your podcast?

SPEAKER_02 33:50

That would be bring the quarter mile back and just a little mini-series. They do that that that's in right now, doing little reboots like they did four episodes and knock them in the middle. Like what maybe we need to be too. I'm open to the idea of that.

SPEAKER_00 34:03

Your podcast revisits cheesy uh family-friendly movies.

SPEAKER_02 34:07

Uh you know, I I uh I do miss reviewing movies. Uh speaking of which, yeah, uh so this is the first time in my in Clean Comedy Chat's podcast history where when I asked the guest to be on, she asked me if we could talk about a certain question. So if anyone, future guests, you're allowed to tell me if you want to talk about it. And paving the way. I I've I'd I'd never been like like I had a topic request on the podcast, but I was so curious. So so we uh we both watch the movie uh Is This Thing On? Um and which is on Netflix and a bunch of other Will Onnet, a lot of other things directed by Bradley Cooper. Director, yes, that's right. And also he's in it.

SPEAKER_00 34:44

So he's in it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:45

So um Jordan Jensen's also in it, formerly a national comedian, now a New York comedian, recent special. Um, but uh that and so if if you all don't know, and maybe you do because you're listening to this podcast, uh, I do have a movie rewatch podcast history. Uh, if you ever want to hear me talk more about uh action movies and especially the Fast and Fierce, check out the Quarter Mile podcast. It's my other podcast. So uh it currently has a 59 episode, but who knows? We may add a three-episode mini-series to cover uh the Christian movies, the clean movies.

SPEAKER_00 35:14

We would have to watch them live. Like you would have to see our reactions. Okay. That would be the whole thing.

SPEAKER_02 35:19

That would be fun.

SPEAKER_00 35:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:20

Um, but so we are talking uh, we're taking a moment to talk about the this movie is this thing on. And I guess my first question is what what was it about this movie? We're like, I have thoughts, I want to talk about it. Like what because it does it, it hit me, it had some comedy in it, had some comedy culture in it, also had some like romance and life, you know. Sure. And and I was more interested in the comedy part of it when I was watching it. But yes, what about you? What was what was it? What did this movie stir in for you?

SPEAKER_00 35:46

Yeah, first I think it's just fascinating. I'm I'm so interested to see movies and shows that depict like someone trying to do comedy.

SPEAKER_02 35:54

Um, so you think it was did did this one fairly deplicked comedy?

SPEAKER_00 35:59

This was the thing. This is the whole thing. Okay, so did you ever watch Pete Holmes crashing?

SPEAKER_02 36:04

Um, so much. I've seen it through at least three times. It was the series that gave me permission to feel okay with the fact that I wanted to leave ministry to do a stand-up comedy.

SPEAKER_00 36:14

That's amazing. I didn't know this.

SPEAKER_02 36:16

This is a very formative show for me. I I even one time, last time Pete Holmes was coming here to town to perform at Zany's, I sent him a message which was a little too long and stalkery, which is probably why he didn't respond. But I explained how that I'd love to open for him if it's not available. And I was like, this is how crashing changed my life. I have opened for several comedians in Crashing. My favorite uh comedy experience in general was uh Jamie Lee performed at Huntsville. Uh it's it's Levity Live now, but it used to be called Something Different. Um, I don't remember. But I I I and I saw that she was performing, so on the way back from a gig, I went and um went to go watch it. And my friend was hosting, so she's like, she she made made reference at oh, one of my comedian friends back there. Then Jamie Lee was like, Do you want to do time? And I was like, absolutely. So I got to open for it. And then I did so well, she's like, Do you want to come back tomorrow? So I literally drove back to Nashville and drove. But um, when I was in LA, I got to uh I got comedy advice from one of the writers for crashing. So yeah, so no, it's um uh the that is incredible.

SPEAKER_00 37:13

Yeah, that is awesome. So that's my standard of like crashing was one of the most realistic depictions of like what it's like to try and do comedy. Yeah, it's like, yeah, that feels very, very familiar. When I watched this this thing on, which they weren't, I don't think their goal was to like accurately depict right someone trying to get in, but I was just like, that is not how it went, and that's not how it goes. Like he walks into the place, he's drunk and high, um, you know, wanting to do this thing. Um, but anyways, all these comedians are like, come sit with us. Right. I was that was the first one I was like, first of all, they're like, we're bringing you in, we're taking you under our wing, you cute little aspiring comic. And I'm like, hmm. And then, you know, he does his thing, and they're all very like, they're they're joshing with him, they're joking, and I'm like, that that's not how it is. And then I think, you know, five minutes after he's tried to be a comedian, he gets a call to open for right.

SPEAKER_02 38:13

Well, and I will say what they tried to present in the movie was like it was over a period of time. So by the time he got to do that opening bit, it you know, the this part of the story was like he'd been doing this for a while. He'd been going to open it.

SPEAKER_00 38:26

What? It was two months, three months.

SPEAKER_02 38:28

Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 38:29

We don't know.

SPEAKER_02 38:30

I mean, it's not like he did it once and then went to sold-out theater.

SPEAKER_00 38:33

I think the point is I felt right. Okay, this is the thing. This is the thing. I was uh my husband was like, What do you want to talk to to Drew about that movie for? And I told him, I'm like, this is just unrealistic. I don't relate to it. And he was like, Didn't you say Drew wanted to talk about how you did one comedy show? But like, I think it's more the culture, and and I that is totally the pot, you know, calling kettle, whatever. But it's just the culture of like, we're here to help you along your journey. And then there was that kind lady who was like, I've been doing this 25 years, I'll get you shows. It called him up, like, do you want to do this? And I'm like, Where's my old lady?

SPEAKER_02 39:07

Right. Well, and I think I think that is I do I do think they made it look more common than it is. They definitely the the hyper realism of this, like you look at watch how they did put comedy and it makes you think, oh, I want to be part of that as well. And then, like, sure, if you get the reality of it, you see, like, oh, there was some movie magic in that. Yeah, I will say though, that every person who's ever become successful in comedy has had that quote unquote nice old lady.

SPEAKER_00 39:33

Yeah. There was also a part that I deeply resonated with where um someone's leaving someone he's with is leaving to go to work. Like they had slept together and she's going to work. And he was like, I don't, I didn't know you were a nurse, I thought you were a comedian. And she was like, I am a comedian, and then goes to her nursing job.

SPEAKER_02 39:52

I can resonate with that too.

SPEAKER_00 39:53

Yeah. I stopped and I was like, Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_02 39:57

People are always like, What do you do? And they're like, I'm a comedian. Like, yeah, but like during the day.

SPEAKER_00 40:01

Exactly. And I just felt very seen in that moment. I was it and like her persistence in being like, Yes, I am going to go be a nurse. I am a comedian. Like, I don't know. That was like yes, yeah, like because you know, I I've always said that pursuing comedy is like every day swimming upstream. And as soon as you stop, the current just eats you alive, you know. So yeah, I appreciated seeing it depicted, like someone who is uh doing her stuff and she also has a full-time, but she's you know, both.

SPEAKER_02 40:34

One thing I thought was interesting was because I people always talk about how like comedy is like my therapy or whatever, and it's really not because therapy helps you overcome your issues. Comedy may help you realize that's part of it, yeah, or it may like give give you it's helpful to reflect on whatever your issues are, but at the big when we were watching this, like the movie as it was going, I was thinking it was gonna be another like comedy is like my therapy, right? But uh because that he'd get up there, and I did like how you saw him do a whole five-minute set. Yeah, uh, you felt the awkwardness of the silence. Yeah, right. Like, and I thought that was something I don't normally see in those either either you watch them bomb completely or it's like so or like it just killed it naturally or whatever. And so you felt like he did well at some points, he bombed at other points. You could just the way he acted, you could see the nervousness and the uncertainty, but then at the end, like, hey, this was fun, I want to do it again. And I feel that is that it did a very good job of that that first comedy experience. Um, but then it it was kind of like it was his therapy, it was how he was overcoming his or but it was a coping mechanism. It was a coping mechanism, he wasn't healing from it. And I was so glad they included that scene where like when all the stuff hit the fan and he was happy doing it, he just gets up there and he like explodes and rants and makes it so uncomfortable. And because there's it I'm sure you've seen it over mics. That that happens, and you know it's not funny, but it's that that's why comedy is not therapy. That's right, exactly. The purpose of you sharing your crazy stuff is to entertain, yes.

SPEAKER_00 42:04

That's and so and yeah, so another uh totally unrealistic thing about it, I thought, was that he got his family in the room. Like there, he got his dad in the room.

SPEAKER_02 42:15

Right, they were they all at randomly what are the odds that she goes on a date and sees that that was yes.

SPEAKER_00 42:19

They were so supportive.

SPEAKER_02 42:21

Now, what was realistic to me was when he was talking to his parents the first time about being a comedian and their reactions to it.

SPEAKER_00 42:30

That's a lot to just get a motorcycle and a leather jacket. I was thinking about this too. I feel like when you decide to do comedy, you're really like bringing home another person for your family to meet. It's like this whole other thing that's foreign to them, and you're asking for them to accept it, and they may or may not. And that's part of the is like all the challenges with comedy. It's like there are so many on stage and there are some off stage of like I'm also working for this to be like a valid pursuit in my own head, yeah, because of all the noise. And then to have family who's like also contributing to that like that sounds super hard. You know what I would love from friends and family? I'm gonna send this to everyone I know. Just just curiosity, yeah. Just like, what do you how do you write a joke? What what are you excited about right now? Just any sort of curiosity around, I don't know, yeah, the craft in general or whatever. I think because I don't like the people in my immediate circle don't do it. I think there's just this like, oh, that's your thing. Yeah, like you go off and do it, you know, and I'm like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 43:38

Yeah, and it's weird to it. I've learned when if people ask like, how'd the show go this weekend? I just say like, good.

SPEAKER_00 43:45

Right. Because they're asking, how's your weekend? Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02 43:48

And if I go into details, either it's either like they get jealous, like, wait, you did that, and then they like, What do you think? You're better than me, kind of thing. Like it's a w the there's a weird that reaction, or there's like, well. That's not really a job. Or like that's not really that big of a deal.

SPEAKER_00 44:02

Or like you should either way, it's like, ooh.

SPEAKER_02 44:05

So yeah. No one's ever like that's an appropriate like no one gave like an appropriate reaction. So it's like, I just it was fun.

SPEAKER_00 44:10

Which is another reason why we need each other. Yep. Like I know that I could call you and be like, dude, this set, yeah, this and that and that, and you would give me helpful feedback.

SPEAKER_02 44:20

Um, and and yeah, or it's comforting sometimes you're like, man, I just feel like bombed.

SPEAKER_00 44:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:27

That was a rough show.

SPEAKER_00 44:28

You know, but the times where another comic has reached out or helped, like, um, uh, there's a really funny girl, Christy Conder, who we both know. And I mean, we're we're not like super, we don't know each other super well, but she took me to lunch. And it was like the greatest thing ever. And like, I don't know, uh going back to your point of like we need each other and having that person who's roping you in, bringing you in. So shout out to Christy Condor.

SPEAKER_02 44:56

I get it, Christy. We're in her on this podcast sometime. Yeah, yeah. She's in the clinic comedy collection. She is. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:00

Yeah, like I said, all the comics setting up, I'll come back to you, Drew.

SPEAKER_02 45:04

You know, I um but thank you. Um well, it's here's the interesting thing about comedy and comedians is it's so important to find your people. What you know, we we we know we that's one of our selling points for the clean comedy collective. But even if you're not part of the clean comedy collective, finding the comedians that like you hang out with at the open mics or that you you know can go out to lunch with and like have real life friendships, and the longer you do this, you find those people. It just and for lack of some of it, it's because you both are in the same city and you've you're still doing it.

SPEAKER_00 45:37

Like there's you again.

SPEAKER_02 45:38

I went I went to a birthday party last night of a comedian that um I mean we're friends now, but I think mainly the friend we're friends because we've both been in this over a decade. Proximity, right place, right time. Absolutely. Um, and but here's the challenge, and I I I I I I don't want to sound like I'm crapping on comedians, but this has been my experience. Because we're such charismatic and bubbly and fun people, usually, it is very hard to tell is is this person my friend or just like a coworker?

SPEAKER_00 46:09

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 46:10

Right, because sometimes what I learned is not everyone on your side is actually on your side. Oftentimes you're just going the same direction, and then you both are the final two for that tribe out our special and they get it and you don't, and then where's that leave your friendship or the other way around? And so it's really so I've always had a hard time with that in comedy is deciphering is this person a genuine friend or are they a coworker? And you can still get along with your coworkers, but there's not the ones who you're gonna like really dive into life with, you know. We're gonna do the game Ask a Comic. So we already we already picked the questions. I'm sorry. Um so uh here's your first question. Uh I believe this came from Chris Sarant on Facebook, who's a who's a friend of mine.

SPEAKER_00 46:47

I haven't heard these. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 46:48

So okay, so yeah. Um, yeah, so I saved you all listening um time and me picking we picked the numbers earlier, we asked them, and so here the here are the questions. So do you have any tips um on how to overcome writer's block?

SPEAKER_00 47:05

Okay, this is where I can shout out someone. I can shout out Rich Tallerico.

SPEAKER_02 47:10

Um I don't know if I know Rich.

SPEAKER_00 47:12

Yeah, he came in, so he wrote for um Key and Peel. He actually wrote the bit the substitute teacher. Okay. Like that was him. And he was teaching um at Third Coast. So I took a class with him, yeah. Um and he said that the remedy for um writer's block was asking the who, what, where, why. Um, so like, you know, who cares about this? Who would hate this? Who would be most excited to hear this? Like curiosity. I think I could sum it up with that. Okay. Being curious and asking questions. That kind of gets me out of a funk. Um and yeah, helps me see things from a new perspective. Um, instead of just like, I have to conjure this up myself and lift this thing. Um, but just getting curious and from my own personal experience, not um stressing when you have that creative block. Because it is, it's going to happen. Like you're not a creative.

SPEAKER_02 48:10

And the more you stress over it, the more you're making it worse.

SPEAKER_00 48:13

It's like when you're stressed and someone's like, just don't stress, don't stress. Calm down. Yeah. Yeah. So I would say just like don't hate it, don't fight it, ride the wave. Um, sometimes it might be your creative self saying, like, hey, slow down a little bit. Like, we are still human. Um, but other than just not taking that with uh fear, I would say just getting curious.

SPEAKER_01 48:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:36

Another thing, which I really, really appreciate, that is discipline right there. That is discipline. But another thing is like picking or even having someone else pick a topic, yeah, like bananas, and like I have to write something about like give yourself pressure.

SPEAKER_01 48:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:50

I just said, don't just ride the waves.

SPEAKER_02 48:53

But another approach is to don't or yes, or put your big girl pants in. Right, get off the surface. Be a freaking comedian.

SPEAKER_00 49:02

Do your job. Um, but yeah, starting with a topic and just yeah, yeah, because sometimes if there is an assignment, it helps me.

SPEAKER_02 49:10

Right. I like this question. It's uh, what's your favorite comment someone has told you after a set?

SPEAKER_00 49:16

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02 49:18

And I'll add to this favorite or like most ridiculous. Like, like it because people say some weird stuff.

SPEAKER_00 49:22

They do, they do. Um, I the most memorable always is like, you were funny, right?

SPEAKER_02 49:30

Like they're surprised.

SPEAKER_00 49:32

Or they'll even add an actually like you were actually funny. I get that.

SPEAKER_02 49:35

I literally have a joke about that. That's literally my third special name, actually funny.

SPEAKER_00 49:41

I love that. Yeah, so that's always um, and then if like sometimes people will be like, I really liked your joke about X, Y, and Z, and it was like the first joke I did.

SPEAKER_01 49:50

Like, did you listen to the best?

SPEAKER_00 49:53

Did it just peek and then just drop off? Yeah, depending on the situations. But the the the one that just came to mind first was man, you were actually blew my mind because I thought you were gonna be terrible.

SPEAKER_02 50:07

They never say that second part, but it's that's implied.

SPEAKER_00 50:09

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 50:10

This is the last question. It's funny because I feel like a lot of what we talked about uh has been around this, but uh what is your writing process?

SPEAKER_00 50:17

Hmm, yeah. My writing process is life, and then as things happen, um, I will get the notes section of my phone. I have like a hundred notes just called like bits, bits two, bits three, bits today or whatever, and and literally just write a a sentence. And then usually like late at night after I've done all the things, I'm looking at my phone, looking at the notes, and like, hmm. You know, for some reason when I'm falling asleep, when I'm like trying to sleep, that is when all the ideas start kicking.

SPEAKER_02 50:51

That might be the ADHD. Probably a thing.

SPEAKER_00 50:55

Yes. Um, but yeah, it's the notes section on my phone. And then slowly, if it makes the cut on the notes section, like I always read my jokes to my husband. He's a huge, he's he's a bigger fan of comedy than I am. So, you know, judging on his reaction, I'll either like hmm, I'll keep going or not. But then they go to a Word document and then I start trying to sort them by subject and find the links.

SPEAKER_02 51:18

Um our process is so similar. Just so is it really? Yeah, because I'm I'm on the I'll I'll think of I'll think of some something funny will happen, and I'll really kind of think of the funny part or the punchline first, and then I'll put it on my phone so I don't forget it. And I do have plenty of like different notes for different topics. I don't say bit one, bit two, but it's weirder because I'll be like bowler's body, Chick-fil-A, you know, yeah, mixed in with all your life stories. Right, and people are like shopping this bowler's body.

SPEAKER_00 51:48

What right, right? Thankfully, no one reads that's funny.

SPEAKER_02 51:51

Yeah, so no, I I I was just thinking because I have a joke about uh how people look at I've had a middle school girl tell me she's like you have the same body type as a professional bowler. And so I wrote a joke about that on that app. So yeah. Um, but but I get like weird inspiration, like driving, or often like the getting up in the morning process, like the shower and stuff like that, or like watching TV, watching other people.

SPEAKER_00 52:15

Watching TV. Yes, I I was watching the TV, the TV. That one, the TV, the singular TV. Um, and what did there was a commercial for um what was it? Sight something sightseeing. And I was like, sightseeing. Like, if if you do not have sight, that's like a double wave. Like you cannot sight or see.

SPEAKER_02 52:37

And you definitely can't sightsee.

SPEAKER_00 52:38

No, you can't. It's like, man, two blows in one. So I just like will write sightseeing on my phone and then and then hope I remember what it was linked to.

SPEAKER_02 52:46

And at some point I have to sit down and be like, how do I make this coherent to somebody else?

SPEAKER_00 52:50

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 52:50

Like, I get what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 52:51

You had to be there. Yeah. So yeah, it's life notes, word document, and then sorting. And before I have a special, I'll get um a foam poster board and put every note as a sticky note in order and color code them of like this is what I'm talking about, my family. It's blue, then pink, so that when I'm doing it, I'm I'm mentally picturing the posting notes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 53:15

I do organize the topics once I'm putting a special together where I make, and it's always like if it's a longer routine, so like 30 minutes or more, the last joke will have something to do with the next topic, and that's how I remember what where I'm going.

SPEAKER_00 53:28

So that's cool.

SPEAKER_02 53:29

Uh well, hey, this is a friendly reminder. If you have any questions, feel free to. There's a button uh on whatever you're listening to. It's a send mail or whatever. You can click it and you can write in a question. If you see us on YouTube, you can comment. You I've had people just email me the questions, so you can do that. Yes. So yeah, you could just come come knock on my door and send a personal uh delivery.

SPEAKER_00 53:50

Uh I'm going to note you my question and then send it via Word document. Here we go. And then we're gonna poster board it.

SPEAKER_02 53:57

Yeah, that sounds good and in different color.

SPEAKER_00 53:59

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_02 54:01

So that would that'll be good. Um, well, uh first of all, thank you so much for being on this podcast.

SPEAKER_00 54:06

Thank you so much for having me. I love talking comedy, especially with you. Well, thank you.

SPEAKER_02 54:10

And I agree, this is this is so much fun. I always I always learn a lot through these interviews, yeah. Um, and and then it makes me sound really smart when I'm talking comedy to other people.

SPEAKER_00 54:19

And then you can just recycle.

SPEAKER_02 54:21

I do. I'm like, well, actually, I was talking to a comedian last week, and this is what they were saying.

SPEAKER_00 54:26

Maybe I should start a podcast, Group.

SPEAKER_02 54:28

The cleaner comedy. The cleanest crass comedy chat. I love that. Um well, so okay, so this is your time to plug whatever you want to plug. Where can we find you? What do you have coming up?

SPEAKER_00 54:41

Thecarrymurphy.com has everything, has all my shows, everything that I'm doing, but also uh follow me at the Carrie Murphy. Honestly, because I would just love to connect with you all, have some conversations like Drew and I are having here. And um, I want to encourage anyone who is listening to this and you are pursuing the art of comedy to stick at it, keep at it. You're doing great. Um, and keep doing you, man. Keep taking the right next step, keep hustling, and and that's how it happens. So yeah, keep fighting the good fight.

SPEAKER_02 55:12

There we go. Hey man, I I'm so glad you said that because one of the questions I forgot to ask you, but I really want to know the answer is like, what advice do you have for comics? Just and and it sounds like it's keep doing it.

SPEAKER_00 55:24

Just keep just keep failing, honestly, just keep failing. Um, like as long as it's feeling good and you're and you're like still, you know, hungry for it, like just keep putting yourself in rooms, like keep doing it. And and I would say too, um, there have been so many times where I've had uh you know something scheduled and I don't feel funny, I feel angry or spend a a bad week or whatever, and do it anyway, just do it anyway.

SPEAKER_02 55:49

So um and do you uh do you feel better afterwards? Because that's what you mean. It's almost better.

SPEAKER_00 55:54

Yeah, because then I'm going on with like I gotta turn this around, you know, like I'm I'm extra charged. Um so and you know, you're doing it well, you're doing the right thing. Just um yeah, stay positive.

SPEAKER_02 56:08

Yeah, that's good. And uh for anyone, you know, thank you for so much for listening to us. Um that you follow us at cleancomedycollective.com. We're on Instagram, we're on Facebook. Um, for anyone who's wants to check out our shows, we have shows all across the country. I believe at this point we have 220 comedians across the nation in like 30-ish states, 32. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, it's it's a lot more than just middle Tennessee. Last year it was like me and Carrie and a few people from Middle Tennessee, you know. So um exploding. And so uh so there's stuff going on um all across the country, and you can hit a lot of different states on our site and find comedians near you. And uh every week we bring a different one onto this podcast. So feel free to check out our earlier episodes. I believe this is episode 12. So we've interviewed 11 other comedians, so uh from all over the place. And uh there's a donate function if you'd like to join our Patreon. Uh you get early access to the episodes and you get the uncut episodes. So, for example, in this episode, one of the parts that's going to be cut is me mispronouncing Christian artists' names. And if like that sounds worse, that sounds like I'll pay for that. So you can don't even tell them what names. Oh, I wouldn't even I wouldn't dare. Um but uh but yeah, uh there's and and especially thank you. There's a few people who have commented from earlier episodes and sent really nice things about what they've appreciated about this podcast, and that's been really helpful for me. So thank you if you listen to us regularly. Uh appreciate you. Um, and we'll be back next week with a different artist. So thank you guys so much, and hope you have a great rest of the day.

SPEAKER_00 57:33

Bye guys. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 57:39

You're welcome.